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Post by Mang on Feb 3, 2012 16:41:00 GMT -5
As this seems to be our next focused progression hardmode (at least it definitely will be for Monday), let's chat. This the primary guide I've checked out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvdlytyXoHc seems pretty straightforward, just heavy number requirements, especially DPS. a) Staci smite-spams for as much of the fight as is feasible, apparently the disc can pull off ~3mil dmg over the course of the fight before they have to straight heal, which is significant damage b) they did a 2-tank 2-heal, which is going to be more DPS than a 1-tank 3-heal anyways, so I think that should be our focus -- I think their disc priest got both the green and blue buffs, while pally got red c) when our raid comp is 2-tank 2-heal we don't have replenishment, is this a problem? d) tanks were hit/exp focused, even DPS trinkets if they had good ones e) their hour of twilight eat-cycle was 2 hunters, rogue, spriest, and then each tank. Ours would be 2 tanks, mage rogue hunter +.... Rockamo? I don't think we have any other options, I don't think Freia or Fortenar can do it? Barkskin or shield wall viable?
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Post by llena on Feb 3, 2012 18:11:01 GMT -5
sounds good chief. idk about soaking shit so w/e...but i see a problem with mana for dave taking red first and not taking blue at the end..DEPENDING on how much of the soft enrage we get into. that's something that might change as we struggle with attempts, dave and i can work it out. if im smite spamming I should have full mana the whole time and would probably let dave pick up blue, but regardless I don't think we can take much more than 1 hour of twilight during the soft enrage so thats on the dps. should be fun!
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Post by cornholio on Feb 4, 2012 15:51:44 GMT -5
I don't see a way that 1 tank works with the accelerated Fading Lights, plus the fact that Bowser gets 1-shot by 1 boss melee. Two tank 2 heal seems to be in order and word on the street is mana for that fight should not be much of an issue with the healer buffs.
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Post by llena on Feb 8, 2012 10:04:54 GMT -5
Hello! So after the raid I read some forums, looked up some vids, and got a more comprehensive idea of how we might try healing this week. I personally went in with the attitude of LOLNERFEASYMODE but that is clearly not the case. Dulla also came to me to discuss how we can fine tune the healing and maximize our win potential. Together we came up with ways to give us the needed healing burst at the 5min mark. As we see how these changes work we can obviously tweak them if things aren't working properly. Here goes:
First, I will be taking red (100% more healing). I will also still be atonement spec but this time I'll be much less bad at it. Smiting to give my heals a 15% buff, plus red crystal = geeg raid healing. I'll still want my mastery for HM Yorsahj but before Ultra I'll be reforging into crit for mondo DA's. Sorry Wolf I know that's your word, but I am a try hard after all. Dave will be taking green/blue. Knowing he'll get blue in the end will allow him to go all out, and he'll take green (duplicates and distributes all heals evenly to the raid) which will help me as he bombs big heals as raid healing gets harder. Dave should also reforge out of spirit and into mastery for as much output as possible. Mana shouldn't be a problem as he'll be taking blue crystal (decreased mana cost + haste).
We still need to do the lust for healers at 5 minutes thing. We also need to work out raid/healing cool-downs for that time. I know that Aaron was using his raid wall for some Hour absorbs, however I'd like to have it available at 5 minutes into the fight when we're lusted and things are crazy. I imagine we'll be using all our raid cd's conjunctively (raid wall, tranquility, bubble, divine hymn) because the damage is massive and we should be seconds from killing him at that point anyway. Since output is key both healers should be using volcanic potions and pop spell power trinkets. I've bought mine from Firelands rep, I think if Dave doesn't have the rep he can purchase one from the Valor vendor.
Sorry tentacle users but we will need to stack at the steps for this fight. Taking time to heal someone that doesn't get hit by aoe heals and running to our healing buff just isn't an option.
So that's it! Any feedback?
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Post by Mang on Feb 8, 2012 12:18:14 GMT -5
Sounds really excellent. I didn't want to be a bitch or anything because I think people's moods were pretty iffy at the time, but last weeks attempts simply left me thinking you (healers) didn't have your strat down enough. But a lot of the time I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to healing, and I just assume you guys will have it on lock because you're usually pretty goddam fresh. I am curious, however, because the strats I've seen specifically have the Paladin getting red buff. But I'm down for smashing face until we figure out optimal healing. I think the DPS, tank switching and Hour of Twilight dancing is all there (with occasional fuckups), just more coordinated defensive cooldowns near the end, the bloodlust tweak, and whatever healing mods you can do will be the GG. The tanks might try to tweak their gear as well, buy valor DPS trinket or reforge into hit/exp for fresh DPS -- logs I see have tanks doing 20k+ and ours are doing 12-15. I know specifically that there are glyphs for DK tanks that make their deathstrikes hit like a truck -- ez tweaks to make for big payout. My heart's beatin, my heart's beatin! My hands are shakin, my hands are shakin! But I'm STILL shooting, and I'm STILL gettin headshots. www.youtube.com/watch?v=olm7xC-gBMY#t=1m02s
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Post by cornholio on Feb 8, 2012 12:49:30 GMT -5
Saving my raidwall for the end would be quite ideal as it is 20 seconds of 20% reduced raid damage across the raid. I WOULD be able to use it once in the fight, and I think with 3 rotations, I would be fine to use it just once. Coupled with one more CD from either sac from Dave or Tristan, coupled with Pain sup and Last Stand, I could survive the 2nd round of hour of twilight. Is pain sup being used at any specific time already or can we use it for a specific hour of twilight?
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Post by Mang on Feb 9, 2012 6:25:18 GMT -5
This boss has been <Slap Fiesta>'d -- super clean too, was it a 2 shot? 3? Pro ass heals = mark it down as farm status.
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Post by cornholio on Feb 9, 2012 19:52:18 GMT -5
2 - shot.
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Post by bidderdoo on Feb 9, 2012 23:45:41 GMT -5
so does this mean im playing my pally now? ??
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Post by Mang on Feb 10, 2012 13:28:57 GMT -5
I think once your DK can tank, your pally is perma benched? Obv you played the pally great, and it's good to know he's geared enough, but I think general focus is on your DK moving forward. It's really not about buffs, I guess -- the only thing the Blood DK helps with is Horn of Winter so wolf doesn't need to keep up Battle Shout. It's more about OP survivability, AOE tanking or DPS, death grip on sappers...?
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